So how supportive of Peter Hain is Rhodri Morgan while the Welsh Secretary seeks to cope with the kerfuffle surrounding his non-declaration of more than £100,000 of donations to his Labour deputy leadership campaign?
According to Kevin Maguire's diary in today's New Statesman, it all depends what language you ask him in. Seems he was more than happy to put his support on the record yng Nghymraeg when asked by the BBC, but strangely reticent to do the same for Mr Hain - who, lest we forget, the First Minister didn't back to become Deputy Leader - in English. Nothing like hedging your bets.